World Series Game 7 Recap: Chicago Cubs 8, Cleveland Indians 7 (10)

YOUR WORLD CHAMPION CHICAGO CUBS

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W - Chapman (2-0), all of us.

L - Shaw (2-1)

S - Montgomery (1), my faith that sometimes things work out.

 

Things to Take from This Game:

1. Cubs get to Kluber, Miller

. Kluber consistently left the breaking stuff up in the zone, and struck out no one in four innings. A Russell sacrifice fly and Contreras double plated two more in the fourth.

2. Baez, Ross, atone for defensive miscues

Baez made a couple of errors of youth and enthusiasm, first throwing away a grounder he went to his knee for, and then missing on an attempted barehand turn of a double play. But he made up for it by chasing Kluber from the game with a solo home run at the top of the fifth. Similarly, David Ross entered the game with Jon Lester, and had a throwing error and then let s. He promptly

3. Hendricks solid, Lester heroic.

Hendricks was functional if not especially dominant, but got the quick hook from Maddon after he walked Santana with two outs and no on in the fifth. Lester suffered from a squibber, a wild pitch, and some rough defense from Ross to give up two runs with two outs in the fifth, but then settled down and pitched masterful relief. Maddon pulled him with two outs in the eighth and one one, bringing in Chapman. Guyer promptly doubled to bring the game to 6-4. And then....

4.Rajai F'ing Davis

With 4 outs to go and Cleveland at a 3.5% Win Expectancy, , tying the game at 6.

(We somehow survived that, and then, with 1 out to go in the bottom of the 10th and a 4.5% Win Expectancy, Davis again tormented us with a lined single to center to bring Cleveland to within a run, at 8-7. However....)

5. The 10th...

After a rain delay postponed the start of the tenth, Schwarber singled, Bryant hit a sacrifice fly to advance the pinch-runner Almora, Rizzo got an IBB, and then and RBI single by Montero gave us an 8-6 lead.  Carl Edwards Jr. and Mike Montgomery nail down the save, in a nail-biter,   A 10th-inning, Game 7, World Series victory on a rally started by a guy who missed the entire season from game 3 to the start of the world series, and saved by a couple of untested young relievers. But perhaps most indicative of what this year has been all about, eight different Cubs drove in an RBI, in a true team effort. After the game is over we learn the players called a meeting during the rain delay. David Ross gets carried off the field on Rizzo's and Heyward's shoulders, after the preliminary on-field celebrations.

 

All your best-team-in-the-world details, below...

 

Essential Questions

1.  Did Maddon Overmanage?

Maddon had a quick hook on Hendricks, pulling him for Lester, who promptly gave up two (hard luck) runs with two outs.  Lester got pulled three innings later for a fatigued Chapman, who promptly gave up three runs. Pinch-running with Coghlan instead of Almora also raised eyebrows, since it left us with one catcher, and the baserunning skill difference is perhaps less significant than the difference between Almora and Coghlan as pinch-hitters against Cleveland's very right-handed bullpen. Then there was the squeeze play call with a runner on third and 1 out in a tie game in the ninth. Almora then pinch-ran for Kyle Schwarber, Offensive Juggernaut, in the 10th.  Wiser people than me can sort through how much if any of this was overmanaging. But, in the end, does it matter?

2.  How many ways can you split the World Series MVP?

3. Ready to talk Back-to-Back?

 

 

Game Recap

 

Top of 1st

  •  Fowler starts the game by taking a 93 mph fastball for a strike on the inside corner. Next pitch, fastball inside, and then fastball high.
  •   My mlb.tv radio feed is ahead of the FOX telecast, and Pat sounds like he wants to call it a homerun, but waits, agonizingly, before calling it gone. I then see on the FOX telecast that his wait was due to Davis making a leaping effort to rob it at the wall, coming up just short.  1-0 Cubs
  • Schwarber squibs one to what normally is shallow second base, where the shifted Lindor races in to barehand it.  Kyle Schwarber legs out an infield hit and looks just fine doing it.
  • There are clear chants of MVP as Bryant comes up. Works a 3-2 count. Kluber at 13 pitches with no outs yet. Chants of "Let's Go Cubs."  Bryant flies one to the warning track in right-center. Breaking pitch that didn't have the normal bite to it.
  • Rizzo starts 1-0. Pops out to Davis in shallow center. Looked like another breaking pitch that stayed too far up in the zone.
  •   Pat says "I didn't expect that one, Ron."  Ron replies, "Neither did Kluber."
  • Zobrist flies out to Chisenhall in shallow right.  19 pitches for Kluber.

 

Bottom of 1st

  • Hendricks' first plate gets too much of the plate and Santana hits it hard, but right at Heyward.
  • Beautiful changeup from Hendricks and Kipnis swings over it for strike three.
  • Lindor bounces to Baez, who goes to a knee to catch it, and in so doing stumbles and slips as he throws. Rizzo stretches for it but it pulls him off the bag, E-4.
  • 2 pitches later, a broken-bat 6-4 from Napoli. 9-pitch first inning. 8 strikes.

 

Top of 2nd

  •  Russell pops to Lindor. Kluber seems to be catching a lot of the plate.
  • Contreras tries to go the other way, and fouls out to Chisenhall in right.
  • Heyward breaks his bat popping out to Lindor.  26 pitches for Kluber.

Bottom of 2nd

  • Ramirez lines one off of Hendricks' glove, and Russell can't bare-hand the caromb. Infield hit.
  • Hendricks catches Ramirez between steps in his leadoff and throws one to Rizzo that leads him right into the tag for a beautiful pickoff. Chisenhall then promptly singles to left.
  • Davis bounces into a smartly turned 5-4-3, great pivot by Baez.  19 pitches for Hendricks

Top of 3rd

  • Arrieta, Lester, and Lackey head down to the bullpen
  • Baez gets just a bit ahead of a pitch and hits it off the end of the bat out to Crisp.  Cubs aren't being fooled by much, outs are all in the air.
  • Speaking of, a hard-hit fly out from Fowler out to Chisenhall
  • Schwarber lines one down the right field line. Chisenhall gets to it and Schwarber slides into the tag at second, with no one getting horrifically injured.  Kluber is not going to last long at this rate, even as he continues to generate outs...

Bottom of 3rd

  • Crisp inside-outs one past Bryant down the left field line for a double. It sure feels like we should have more than a one-run lead.
  • Perez bunts up the third base line, where Rizzo, who was crashing in hard, races over for it and takes the out at first. Crisp to third.
  • Santana takes a pitch outside and Contreras fires behind Crisp at third, to no luck. This is a gutsy team.
  • Hendricks gets an offspead pitch up and . 1-1 tie
  • Kipnis chops to Russell who shovels to Baez at second.  Baez tries to barehand it coming across the bag to turn the DP, but the ball slips through his fingers. The runner is at first called out, but it's clear he never had control of the ball. Two errors on Baez, whose motor is running too fast on defense.
  • Montgomery and Edwards Jr. warming up.
  • 3-0 count on Lindor.
  • 3-1 count, Lindor flies towad the left-field line Zobrist slips a bit, but recovers to make the catch. Baez's first error and this both suggest the grass is a bit slick.
  • 0-2 on Napoli.  1-2 count, Napoli rips one to Bryant's right and he makes a nice catch on the liner.  Not sure if I should be annoyed we aren't up, or relieved we aren't down.

Top of 4th

  • Lester throwing to Ross in the bullpen
  • Full count to Bryant, Kluber at 38 pitches.  Bryant singles one through the left-side shift, between Lindor and Kipnis.
  • On an 0-2 pitch Kluber drills Rizzo in the elbow. 2 on, no outs, no one up for the Cleveland pen.
  • Zobrist bounces one to Napoli who throws high to second. Lindor comes down with it and tags the base as Zobrist comes barreling in. Not conclusive that Lindor ever really got his foot on the bag, but Rizzo slides into Lindor so that Lindor's taggingi him while Rizzo is off the bag, anyway. That's likely the basis for the out call.  Runners on 1st and 3rd, one out.
  • Russell flies to Davis in shallow center, and as Pat describes it, I think to myself "Davis has a bad arm, right?"  Pat is surprised to see Bryant tagging up, and Davis sails a throw that Perez has to leap for, with Bryant sliding in before Perez can get the tag down.  2-1 Cubs. Zobrist advances to second.
  • 2-2 count to Contreras, who lines one into deep right-center, on another breaking pitch that got too much of the plate. Davis breaks in and has no hopes of catching up with it as it hits off the wall for a double. Real nice swing by Contreras. 3-1 Cubs.
  • Heyward gets ahead 3-1. Foul, 3-2.  Kluber at 55 pitches.  Pops up to Lindor.

 

Bottom of 4th

  • Ramirez grounds to Rizzo, ranging to his right, and hey, look at that, a pitcher who covers the bag, for the 3-1 putout.
  • 0-2 count on Chisenhall, who pops to Zobrist in shallow left.
  • Davis flies to Heyward.  A much appreciated quick inning.

Top of 5th

  • Miller ready to go in the pen, but Kluber starts the inning. Baez, just as all the RHH had been working on, waits on an elevated breaking pitch and slams it out to the deepest part of right-center field.  4-1 Cubs
  • 1-2  slider from Miller and Fowler lines it for a single, past a diving Lindor.
  • Schwarber squibs one to Lindor who starts a 6-4-3.   Schwarber hustles down the line, forcing a review, but is just barely out.
  • Bryant works a full count and watches Miller throw a 3-2 slider just off the plate, for a walk. Nice AB. Nice to see Miller getting burned in the fifth.
  • Len tells me Holbrooke is the game 7 homeplate ump because, by the metrics, he graded out as the most accurate pitch-caller.   Hooray for meritocracy in this situation.
  • Bryant runs, and Rizzo lines one down the right field line. Chisenhall gets to it before it hits the wall, but Gary Jones sends Bryant. Bryant, on review, got a great jump off first and scores easily on the double.  5-1 Cubs.
  • Zobrist cracks one to deep left-center, where Davis makes a nice running catch on the warning track.

Bottom of 5th

  • Crisp rolls out to Baez.
  • Perez watches a fastball on the outside corner for strike three.
  • two curveballs to start Santana, 0-2 count.  Lester continues to warn up in the pen. Been doing a lot of throwing out there.  Arrieta sort of wandering around.  Santana meanwhile works a full count, it looks like a 2-2 changeup should have been a stike three. . And ball four. At 63 pitches, Hendricks is pulled for Lester, with Ross coming in to catch.
  • Second pitch, a 92 mph fastball on the corner, 1-1. 
  • Kipnis squibs one up the third base line and Ross throws to first. It sails into the path of the runner, and Kipnis collides with Rizzo's back. ball goes into the stands to put runners at 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs. Error on Ross.
  • 2-2 count, borderline pitch on the low outside corner called a ball.  Full-count pitch gets Lindor swinging.

 

Top of 6th

  •  Miller facing Russell, who pops foul to Napoli.
  • Yeah, the best ball-and-strike ump in baseball this year clearly missed what should have been strike three on Santana.
  • David Ross, in what clearly is a fake World Series brought to you by Disney, takes a 1-2 pitch from Miller and 6-3 Cubs.
  • Heyward rolls to Napoli who gets to first in advance of a head-first diving Heyward.
  • Baez swings over a slider to end the inning.

Bottom of 6th

  •  Lester still in,  2-2 to Napoli, who has an awkard swing at a 93 mph fastball for the strikeout.
  • Lester blows another 93mph fastball past Ramirez for strike two. Ramirez reaches for one, and Russell just does get him at first.
  • Guyer hits for Chisenhall, and singles to left.
  • Lester still hitting 93 at pitch 27 to Davis. Cody Allen warning up. 3-1 count to Davis.  Davis hits a chopper up the middle, Baez charges and throws to Rizzo to end the inning.

Top of 7th

  •  Miller still in, and his 38th pitch Fowler lines into right for a single, with Guyer keeping it to a single.
  • Schwarber with a nice AB against Miller, but eventually flies out down the left field line.  Allen comes in.
  • Bryant pops foul near the first base dugout, neither Napoli or Perez can quite get to it.  Allen giving a lot of attention to Fowler, slow pace to this AB
  • Bryant K's while Fowler runs, and get thrown out on a close play, no challenge.  Strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play

 

Bottom of 7th

  • Crisp pops Lester's 32nd pitch to Zobrist.
  • Full count to Perez, pitch just inside for the walk. 39 pitches for Lester. Naquin pinch-runs.
  • We get Peak Lester, as Santana hits one hard back to Lester.  For a brief moment he contemplates throwing to second, but the ball is also a bit stuck in his glove, so as he yanks it out he settles for what we all knew was inevitable, the underhand toss to first.
  • 1-2 to Kipnis, and Lester throws a big sweeping curve that K's Kipnis, swinging.  44 pitches for Lester. FanGraphs tells me Cleveland's Win Expectancy is at 6.5%

 

Top of 8th

  •  Rizzo swings over a curve in the dirt, with Perez making the throw to first.
  • Chapman ready to go in the pen.
  • Zobrist bounces to Napoli, guarding the first base line
  • Russell jams a popup to Napoli for a quiet eighth inning

 

Bottom of 8th

  •  Lester still pitching. Lindor hits a sharp one-hopper right to Russell for the first out.
  • Napoli takes a 94 mph fastball on the outside corner for strike three.
  • Lindor bounces up to Russell's left, he can't quite field it as it bounes away for a hit.
  • Maddon comes out, and Lester leaves the game.  The Cubs fans give him a great ovation.  In comes Chapman.
  • 100 mph to start Guyer. 99. According to Pat, the temperature for the first seven innings was about 62.  It's now 73. 2-2 count on Guyer. 101, fouled off.
  • Ramirez runs on a 3-2 pitch, and Guyer splits the right-center gap for a run-scoring double.  6-4 Cubs.
  • Fastball high and outside to Davis, for ball one. Wind now blowing out to right. Davis keeps fouling off 98 to 101 mph fastballs.  13 pitches... Davis, choking up on the bat, swings at a low fastball and 6-6 tie.
  • Crisp lines a single to left.
  • Gomes hits for Perez. Chapman laboring, "profusely sweating" as Pat describes it." Chapman going to the breaking stuff. As the runner steals, Gomes strikes out swinging. The throw gets into center field, but it's inconsequential, as the inning had ended.  When Napoli K'd, Fan Graphs had Cleveland's Win Expectancy at 3.8%.

 

Top of 9th

  • Allen continues to pitch.
  • It begins to rain. Hard. 3-0 to Ross, 3-1, and a leadoff walk.
  • Coghlan runs for Ross, meaning Montero will catch.
  • 2-0 to Heyward, Cleveland thinking bunt. 2-2, Allen at 27 pitches. Rain letting up, wind picking up.
  • Heyward grounds to Kipnis who struggles to get the feed to Lindor. No attempt at the double play.
  • The grounds crew is about to put the tarp on, while the umpires start to examine Coghlan's slide. It sure looked like a clean slide, and after some confusion, that's what's ruled.
  • Shaw in.  3-1 count to Baez.  . To defend against a sacrifice fly to left, Francona swings Guyer around to left, with Martinez now in the game in right, and the weak-throwing Crisp taken out of the game. Infield in.
  • Shaw throws a fastball and the safety squeeze is on. Baez jabs at it and fouls it at his feet for a strikeout.
  • Fowler  hits a soft liner up the middle. Lindor ranges far to his left, gets to the ball and easily throws out Fowler at first

 

Bottom of 9th

  • Chapman continues to pitch.  3-1 count to Santana, Chapman seems to be fading fast, yet still is throwing 98. Montgomery up. Santana pops to Zobrist; it was a slider that caught a lot of the plate.
  • Rain has stopped.  Full count to Kipnis, Chapman continuing to get breaking pitches out over the plate. Another one, fouled off.Fastball up and in, 98, strikes out swinging at ball four.
  • Lindor flies to Heyward in shallow right. Extra Innings.

 

Top of 10th

  • A rain delay pushes back the start of the 10th. About 20 minutes later, Shaw is staying in the game.
  • Schwarber smokes a low and in fastball past Kipnis, shifted over into short right field for a single.  Almora in to pinch-run. Edwards, Bauer, and Otero all warming up.  Shaw getting pitches elevated to Bryant, who fouls them off.
  • Bryant hits a fly to the warning track in the deepest part of right-center. Almora tags up.  Half an hour ago the wind was blowing out enough to have nudged it out.
  • Rizzo intentionally walked.
  • 1-2 count to Zobrist. Zobrist lines one down the left field line for a double, Almora scoring easily.  Zobrist is leaping and pumping his fists in ecstacy as he bounds into second base. Rizzo has his hands on his helmet in disbelief at regaining the lead. 7-6 Cubs
  • With first base open, Russell intentionally walked.
  • Montero up, and he grounds one the opposite way against the shift, scoring Rizzo. Bases still loaded. 8-6 Cubs
  • Bauer in. Heyward K's trying to check his swing on a curve in the dirt.
  • Baez works a 2-2 count before flying out to center on a hittable inside fastball

 

Bottom of 10th

  • Everyone who had Carl Edwards Jr. as the guy trying to close out the 10th inning of Game 7 of the World Series, please step forward so that we may identify the liars.
  • I missed it, but hear from others that Chapman was in tears in the dugout. Credit where it's due, he did his very best in very tough conditions.
  • 96 MPH fastball on the corner gets Napoli swinging.
  • Ramirez bounces to Russell ranging toward second, for an easy out.  Two down.
  • 3-0 to Guyer with Rajai F'ing Davis up next....
  • Ball four. Rajai Davis comes up as the tying run....
  • Ball one, Guyer takes second on defensive indifference
  • Davis lines one up the middle, and Guyer scores.  8-7 Cubs.
  • Montgomery in to pitch. Starts Martinez with a curveball strike.  Martinez hits a slow roller to Bryant who comes in on it, and fires to Rizzo. Cubs Win, Cubs are the World Champions.

Parachat Recap

 

Pregame:

  • Thoughtful conversations about the place of the Cubs in our lives. How and where and with whom we're watching. Relationships. Coffee. Music.
  • Me, johann, CTSteve, bizmarquis, Brick, crunch, MorningtonCrescent, waveland, Wes, Ryno, Just_a_Girl all present and accounted for.
  • Who feels like puking? (Most of us.)

 

1st Inning

  • We lose are shit over the Fowler home run. RichK and John Beasley join. Hot_Karlos shows up.
  • Carlos's halloween costume.  mister_whipple shows up.
  • Laughing manically at the Schwarber SB.
  • SOTBLAN, TOOTBLAN, King of the Hill, and Please Clap.
  • Panic over the E-4

 

2nd Inning

  • sbwilliams joins.
  • Parachat spoilers, like watching a horror movie through your fingers.
  • How on-edge we are, even after the HR.
  • Things city-folk don't get.
  • What Joe West is doing out in right field.
  • A Joe Buckless off-season
  • Biased broadcasters
  • Charlie joins.
  • Ramirez's hair, crunch's crops, DFAs, and Chisenhall facts.
  • HAR: Happiness above Replacement.

3rd Inning

  • The scientific engineering of sad commercials.
  • Feeling good about hitting Kluber
  • TOOTBLAN as TOOTBLKS
  • Memories of Cub futility and futility infielders.
  • Anguish
  • Freaking out.
  • Setting Cleveland on fire (except Drew Carey)
  • Mike Napoli's girlfriend.
  • Napoli as the final batter in a kids movie about baseball

 

4th Inning

  • An appropriate Wells Fargo apology
  • Our goals in run-scoring.
  • Mascots for insurance companies.
  • When to pull Hendricks
  • Rally Quacks.
  • Cleveland's running game involves running backs?
  • Starting Lester for 2 IP before going to Hendricks?
  • Reminding crunch it's an AL game.
  • Thrilled at regaining a lead.
  • Forehead-licking.
  • What we're supposed to be working on right now.
  • Ryno almost calls the 2-2 double. 
  • Rally Quacks.
  • What they're doing in Caracas
  • Big Hits and Big... uh....
  • Carlos, Most Valuable Parachatter.
  • We appreciate that we've been a parachat community for a long, long time.
  • Parachat-dating.
  • redsfan joins.
  • RobG joins
  • Three Cheers for CTSteve
  • And to RobG

 

5th Inning

  • The progression of our booze-consumption.
  • The transative property of North Carolinians.
  • How we're going to cope with tomorrow.
  • Carlos proposes to Dexter Fowler.
  • Whose phones are or aren't lighting up with messages
  • My contractual obligation to recap game 7.
  • Death to Trans.
  • When to pull Hendricks
  • We get really excited.
  • My effort to artfully write around the cleavages fails when RichK reminds me not to forget the cleavages.  Ok, fine. I won't.
  • What we would endure for a World Series Championship.
  • Also, don't forget the Clevengers.
  • Lester's very long warmup
  • Debating the switch to Lester/Ross
  • We begin to panic. Anxiety, recrimination, and dread.

 

6th Inning

  •  Continuing to debate the move to Lester.
  • We happily tease the parachatters who would have rather had Contreras up to hit instead of Ross
  • We doubt that this game is real. It's clearly an overly sappy cliched movie.
  • Soft underbellies.
  • Fake historical facts about pre-1915 baseball
  • Fake Winston Churchill quotations about the Cubs.
  • Audio clips of ballplayers not saying anything = White Sox broadcasts, when losing.
  • How fans of rival teams are handling our success.

7th Inning

  •  Return of the gay witchcraft.
  • A quack can't be a herring, you silly goose.
  • The Miller Trade We Didn't Make.
  • Conditions we impose on trick-or-treaters if they want candy.
  • Coffee-talk.
  • The 2017 roster.
  • Potential WS MVP picks.
  • Matusz's World Series share, ring.
  • JB is not allowed to stop drinking until this is over.
  • Big_Lowitzki joins.
  • and with him, we get a johann's mom joke.
  • Garden Weasel, Garden Claw Gold
  • Getting really excited
  • How do we get through the 8th and 9th?
  • Win Expectancy: do we want to know it or not?

8th Inning

  • Pat's high?
  • Chapman's workload tonight?
  • Who's dropping dead after this game?
  • Are there any normal men out there? (no.)
  • We want Lester to stay in the game.
  • Newport joins.  Parachat presently at 21. More have been in, total, ove rthe course of the night.
  • Making fun of Joe Buck.
  • Alcoholic consumption, supply updates.
  • Who owns TCR?  Who does the Twitter feed.
  • Heart attacks and dying in Parachat.
  • Cubbery....

9th Inning

  • Trying to muster hope.
  • Why Coghlan pinch-running over Almora, when the Cleveland bullpen is so right-handed?
  • RALLY CAPS; RALLY QUACKS
  • Freaking out over the near double play.
  • Keeping an eye on when we all have to go work
  • Debating the squeeze play.
  • Debating Chapman coming out for the 9th.
  • Utter dread and foreboding.

10th Inning

  • Second-guessing through the rain delay.
  • Milli Vanilli lyrics. Other songs about the rain.
  • RALLY CAPS; RALLY QUACKS
  • CTSteve finally gets my Big Lebowski reference. Except it was Whipple's.
  • Ecstacy.
  • Who gets to pitch the 10th?
  • How are our pets handling this?
  • We wish Harambe could see this.
  • We've exceeded the the recommended weight limit for Parachat. Someone call the Fire Marshall.
  • Imagining a lineup for next year in which Heyward reverts to his norm.
  • Giving Chapman credit where it's due.
  • Counting down....
  • Also, Coffee and Corner Gas. And BEEEEEEES.  And Bowl Scrapers.
  • They've boarded up the Wrigleyville Starbucks....

 

 

 

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Comments

How do we cover all of this stuff? Such talent...

Let's update this old chestnut... THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE LAST TIME THE CUBS WON THE WORLD SERIES 1) Nothing.

Until the last out, I didn't really believe they would do it. What a way to win it. I am completely wiped out.

pat highes: I've never felt more alive in my entire life.

I heard him say that.  My sentiments exactly.

I loved Rizzo's reaction to Zobrist's hit -- I think the guy was literally in a state of shock.

100% agree.  His reaction was total shock at the thought that the Cubs were going to win this game, and the World Series.  He looked like a 5 year old opening up the perfect Christmas gift.

That is a perfect description!

Going from 100+ losses to WS champs is almost as unbelievable as a Ross game 7 home run. I can understand his disbelief.

The last 2 times the Indians have been in the WS, they have lost Game 7 in extras. That's rough.

Thanks again to CTSteve and all you gents -- it has been one hell of a ride. Same time next year?

Cheers to Trans for so many great recaps over the years.

Congrats to AZ Phil. He deserves this title as much as anyone!

Congrats to AZ Phil. He deserves this title as much as anyone! --- You are correct Hagsag. Since AZ Phil wins the TCR MVP award, does he get the Zobrist-Cyber-Camaro? Does Bill Murray try to honk the horn on AZP's new vehicle? http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwUePlqUkAA244m.jpg

Sorry I couldn't stick out parachat mobile to the end--but I got to talk Cubs WS victory with my dad! Glad we get to keep you around, Trans! [Puts favorite stone back in antique chest.]

So who's the closer next year?

Kenly Jansen

Aroldis Chapman

I'm still in shock. I've teared up a bunch of times again this morning. Congrats to all of us. This Nike ad is cool, in part because it was shot on the same softball field (Eckhart Park) that my team has played on for 15 years. Nice to see they didn't even make it look good for the ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4LrTkWq9jU

Congrats to all of you - everyone of us participating here since early on. It has FINALLY happened. I feel that the Cubs players won in spite of the manager panicking in Game 7 and senselessly using his "only" relief option in Game 6 to pitch again early. I was furious in both of those games at his decisions, and Maddon was scaringly close to becoming the Grady Little of the Cubs. Fortunately the players saved his ass. While Hendricks was not the 1-hit version of his Cardinals gem, he was well in control and gave up a walk on strike 3. In the 5th inning! Can't wait 'til next year!

I assume that Maddon will look back at the last two games and will realize that he over managed. Just glad the players picked him up.

Pretty good breakdown of managerial moves of game 7 although it neglects to mention the Baez bunt which I thought was the worst move of the night. Writer claims he doesn't think Maddon called for it, but  3b coach gave Baez a long talk before so can only assume it came from Maddon.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.ph...

Yeah. That was waaay to "I'm a genius" cute.

That's really good write up. I really agree with the conclusion that the cubs won because of "their talent, their resilience, an their depth". I have had unquestioning faith in Maddon for the whole season, but he really lost me in the 5th inning. "..he was much to mired in the mentality that his counterpart had adopted" is exactly what I was thinking when he gave Hendricks the hook. -and I would add that he was doing so knowing that he had a fatigued closer in the pen. I still think he's a great motivator, but I hope that he learned something from this experience as well. As a side note, I'd like to thank all of you for your insightful comments and therapeutic co-miserations. I've wholeheartedly enjoyed this site and it's predecessors since I found it trying to find solace after the unpleasantness of October 2003. I'm not a frequent poster anyway, but made a decision not to post at all for the last 2/3 of this season, fearful of the bad ju-ju it might bring on. (you can all thank me later)

Frequent reader, seldom poster for over 10 years of The Cub Reporter. Thanks to everyone in this community. I live in Texas these days and this site reminds of having a great baseball discussion at a small midwestern dive bar. Plus is has the added benefit of AZ Phil. What a season!!!! Wow.

Thank you to all of the Cubs community here! Thank you, Trans, for the great recaps! Thank you Rob G. and CTSteve for keeping this site for all of us to congregate. Thanks to AZPhil for allowing us to know about all of these guys from their first moments in the organization. How else would we know about Javy "I'll do whatever the f*** I want" Baez and the nearly wire-to-wire brilliance of Kris Bryant and Kyle Schwarber? I apologize for not joining in the Parachats -- my laptop wouldn't load it. These recaps at least let me experience them second hand. Go Cubs! They did it! Thank goodness!

Holy hell this is awesome. Also in reflecting on this season I think the thing that most amazes me is Hendricks. This is a guy that most people were thinking could be a decent 4th or 5th starter leading the league in ERA and pitching us through some of the most important post season games. Holy hell what a season this guy had. World Series champs finally.

For me, it was both Kyles: the amazing return of Schwarber, who posted a .500 OBP in the freaking World Series having not seen MLB pitching in 6 months and not able to even take BP until the last few weeks. Just amazing! And, just to toot my own horn: Schwarber really did = Willis Reed.

Cleveland rocks -- I'm at the Cleveland airport to fly home to Chicago (here for a meeting, not Game 7). I'm wearing a Cubs sweatshirt, and many Cleveland fans have come over to say Congratulations. Very classy.

For the most part, I have heard nothing but positives on exactly what you are saying. There is some kinship there with the two teams for many reasons.

a lot of good commercials and tributes out there, but this is the one that opened up the waterworks for me.

https://twitter.com/cubs/status/7941282577171...

They did a really good job on that. Here's the one that did it for me: https://twitter.com/joansceline/status/794219...

some people won't understand what this win means beyond our personal joy because they're not in the mindset. for many of us it's not only about the win, it's about those who didn't live long enough to see this win. lot of people thinking about others today...parents, grandparents, friends, ex-players, ex-booth, ex-front office, etc. i never cared for his mic work, but i really wish ron santo could have seen this.

I'll watch these all damn day long... https://vimeo.com/190054574 password: cubs

If you were feeling conflicted about Chapman, I love this take.

http://www.espn.com/espnw/voices/espnw-column...

"I have to admit that those final innings were some of the most stressful, agonizing moments of my life, but with the benefit of hindsight I'm grateful that Chapman blew the lead. Because of his failings, the lasting image of my team's first World Series win in over a century was not of Chapman on the mound celebrating a save. Instead of Chapman in the big pile-up, it was Mike Montgomery, who got one out to record his first career save and clinch it for the Cubs.

That might sound petty, but as someone who felt conflicted about Chapman's role on the team since his arrival, there was a sort of poetic justice to him doing nothing to facilitate the Cubs' final moment of glory -- even if he was technically credited with the win. He's almost certainly off to another team in the offseason and a new fanbase will have to decide whether he's made efforts to change or not, whether they will cheer for him or stay silent."

 

I agree with that and what am amazing trade Mike Montgomery was.

Theo/Jed/Jason pushed all the good trade buttons this year which catapulted the Cubs to this WS win. I'm figuring that they will go after Kelsey Jensen for sure. Perhaps a trade for a young starter involving Soler and maybe other minor leaguers.

I'm thinking the most-likely candidate to replace David Ross in 2017 as Lester's personal catcher will be A. J. Ellis... free-agent... Southern guy (Tennessee)... Was Kershaw's personal catcher in L. A... Also handled fussy veteran pitchers like Greinke and Beckett.... link

Another veteran free-agent the Cubs might target in the off-season is Stephen Drew.

He is a left-handed hitter who hits RHP very well, and (unlike Tommy LaStella) he can play SS in addition to 2B and 3B, and he has more XBH pop than Kawasaki (I would be surprised if LaStella and/or Kawasaki are back with the Cubs in 2017).

I just remember him hitting .100 a couple seasons ago with the D-Backs. I'd take that bet (against this).

I agree with both of you, and I also think Montgomery gets to make 10+ starts next year, maybe more if Hammel or Arrieta get traded. I'm not a big fan of spending money on relief pitchers, so I'd rather the Cubs not go after Jansen (nor Chapman). But I do think they are going to try to acquire at least one solid left-handed reliever to replace or accompany Montgomery in the bullpen. I'm glad for several reasons that Chapman does not seem like the key part of the team for this WS, and the domestic violence charges feel like the most important of those reasons.

FA SP market is crap, keep Hammel, you've got Montgomery, possibly Cahill and Zastrzyny as back-up options and maybe a few other cheapies that can compete in spring training. Doubt Cubs will spend any big $$ this offseason, although I'd be intrigued if they could somehow get Jansen on a 2-3 year deal with a crazy AAV to fit in before Bryant, Russell and Schwarber get expensive...but I don't expect that to happen. They were well on their way to 103 wins before Chapman and there will be another Chapman available in June-July.

Need a CF option. I doubt they go with Almora unless they spend money to upgrade somewhere else.

CHARLIE: As things stand right now (presuming Fowler declines his side of the mutual option and then declines a Qualifying Offer if one is extended), I suspect it will be an Almora/Heyward platoon in CF with Zobrist in RF and Schwarber (and occasionally Bryant or Contreras) in LF to start the season, and then if things aren't working by the All-Star break, the Cubs will make a mid-season trade for a CF. I think the most-likely off-season trade candidates are Jorge Soler, Hector Rondon, and Tommy LaStella, and maybe Jason Hammel (unless the Cubs want to keep Montgomery in the pen for one more season). Bottom line is, the Cubs save payroll if they trade Hammel, and he should have value in a depressed starting pitcher free-agent market where any team that acquires him before Opening Day gets an established SP for $12M and the right to make him a QO post-2017. Soler makes $3M next season and really has no spot on the 25-man roster at this time, LaStella burned his bridge with the Cubs when he refused to report to Iowa in July, and Maddon quite obviously lost confidence in Rondon in the post-season, although his struggles after coming off the DL might have been related to his triceps issue, and so he quite possibly could be the Rondon we saw the first half of the 2016 season once he has an off-season to rest his arm. I suspect the Cubs might target catcher A. J. Ellis (to replace Ross), INF Stephen Drew (to replace LaStella and Coghlan), and a LHRP like Boone Logan (adding another lefty arm to the pen). Trading Hammel would provide the payroll space needed to sign the three (in addition to presumably acquiring a young arm or two in the process).

I'm also thinking the Cubs might try and bring back David Ross in some type of quasi-field capacity (like maybe a roving minor league catching instructor) where he can occasionally take BP and get some reps behind the plate. And then he could be placed on an active roster on 8/31 (making him eligible for the post-season) and get into playing shape at Advanced Instructs in September and be available to be activated for the post-season (if the Cubs get there and if he's needed).

Of the Cubs free-agents, I think the one the Cubs would most like to bring back is Travis Wood, albeit for a significant salary-reduction (he made $6M+ in 2016). What he brings to the table (athleticism and versatility) is a perfect fit on a Joe Maddon 25-man roster. Whether Wood would be willing to take a pay-cut and whether he would want to continue being used in that role is the question. He might prefer a gig where he can be a starting pitcher again, or at least a conventional lefty reliever who doesn't PH, PR, or play LF.

Yep -- assuming they want Zobrist (only real lead-off candidate) and Schwarber (see "Series, World, 2016") in the everyday lineup for their bats, and Baez at 2B for his glove, the only place for Heyward to play is CF. If Baez sticks at 2B, I don't think we'll see as much multi-positonal stuff next year. But, it's Joe, so he'll probably tinker just to keep from getting bored.

Wow. Thanks guys. It's always awesome reading these pages, and the best informed baseball dweebs on earth. I would have liked to have gone on parachat, but then, when's the last time I was on parachat? And thanks for the Cubs for saving Joe's ass. He overmanaged pulling Hendricks, but if he hadn't, well, I have a feeling there are a few new baseball fans in this world because of the way this game played out - fans that may not have come on board in a 5+-1 boring Hendricks win.

O&B - I suppose "it had" to be this way? Its the (old) Cubs! For 2017, maybe you can change the BLUE part in O&B if you meant it to be sad? If you meant "Cub" Blue - nevermind.

AZ PHIL: I hope you had a nice time last night. And you toasted all the youngsters you have seen "grow up" literally before your eyes.

E-MAN: I did. Then I woke up this morning thinking that I just had a dream where the Cubs won the World Series. I'm still not sure, but I think it probably really did happen.

Hopefully Kyle Schwarber can rejoin the Mesa Solar Sox next week and help them win the Arizona Fall League championship. (The Solar Sox are currently in 1st place in the AFL East). The Solar Sox have the longest AFL championship drought among the six AFL teams (last won it all in 2003).

Maybe he could be the AFL MVP? Just like all-time great Cubs Jason Dubois & Sam Fuld. And a decent player by the name of Kris Bryant.

From the WS to the AFL... yeesh.

Who cares about a Solar Sox championship drought? They aren't even a predominantly Cub team. Phil, congratulations on your (and our) Cubs winning the world series! But suggesting that Schwarber go immediately back to running the bases with abandon as we've seen him do very recently is not your best work.

A fun fact about Schwarber is that when he was down here with the Solar Sox last week, he wore #66 (Ian Happ wears #12).

AZ PHIL: thanks for your on-the-spot report on Schwarbs during his pre-WS rehab. MLB just tweeted he had the 5th highest .OPS in MLB World Series history. Not too shabby! To think there was a tiny chance the Cubs could have traded him for Andrew Miller - I find that fascinating based on what happened 10 weeks later.

a'ite...im ready for 2017.

GM Meetings start next Monday.

if I were to predict the Cubs offseason moves...

- Some rather big trade involving some combo of Soler, Happ, Almora and Eloy that gets a decent SP that's under club control for a few years as back-up for Arrieta's most likely departure in a year

- Heyward in CF...anyone that thinks he won't have a starting job is silly. He may lose it and may even lose it quick, but that's how the season will start.

- 95% chance of picking up Hammel's option, decent chance of a trade though if they can bring in another SP via the above speculated trade.

- Montero is 75% sure to be gone, love his intangible game...physical skills have disappeared though. I think Willson becomes Lester's catcher. He's got the arm to slow down the running game. Lester calls his own game anyway. He will need to work on framing pitches though. A good defensive back-up will also be signed such as Ellis that AZ Phil mentioned or similar type.

- Small, small chance Fowler returns which would necessitate further trades

- Small, small chance they go big on Jansen or Melancon and maybe even Chapman, but more likely continue the throw a lot of arms at the problem and let it sort itself out.

- The normal bullpen, SP and bench 40-man roster shenanigans that they have done every off-season.

I think Montero being on the Cubs Opening Day roster in 2017 will depend on whether Schwarber can catch (even as a #3 catcher), or if the Cubs decide to hold-off using Schwarber as a catcher again until 2018. I would be surprised if Maddon goes with just two catchers.

I'm guessing Willson, someone else and Schwarber are the 3 catchers. Small chance that someone else is Montero imo.

Miggy still have a year on his contract?

JACOS: Miguel Montero has one more year left on his contract ($14M).

THX Az!

I Think it will be real tough to move Miggy with 14 mill on the books

EJax was owed more when they decided to move on from him.

True, but EJax was killing them and had no real role on the team. Cubs do need a backup catcher. His LH bat and potential to work with Willson and Schwarber are plusses.

Can't imagine Montero will ever have to purchase another drink in the greater Chicago area for the remainder of his life. Between the pinch hit grand slam and singling in what turned out to be the winning run of game 7 of the World Series I will always be grateful. I think coaxing the scoreless ninth inning out of a distressed Chapman was a minor miracle. Huzzah!

Agree with you about Miggy, especially regarding the bottom of the ninth. Would love to know who called all those sliders--whether it was Maddon, Bosio or the catcher. It was so lovely--at least for me--to see Chapman actually "pitching," as the phrase is. (What--I can't get anybody out today because I don't have 103?)

Hendricks extension

If he's willing to let all his arbitration years and an option on some FA years...sure. Cubs set a price and stick to it like Arrieta and Ninja, not gonna deviate from that plan. hendricks is less likely to get injured with his velocity than others so he'd have a better case for sticking it out.

Agreed. He's the kind of guy that fits the profile both as a pitcher and person as a good extension candidate, where each party gives up something to get some certainty. This is random and anecdotal, but he reminds me of a right-handed Mark Buehrle in that the frame is built to handle the stuff and that even some small deterioration in velocity won't doom his results. I say get him paid and locked up this winter if he meets you halfway.

I would also add that Russell and Bryant are obvious extension conversations, but with Boras, it seems much less likely.

I don't know about Russell, but Bryant got a large signing bonus, and will get a ton when he is arbitration eligible. It seems there is little reason not to just ride it out until free agency.

Bryant 10/450 Russell 10/300 Forbes predicted value of Cubs double with WS win, now worth $ 4B even with out Ricketsville (hotels,restaurants) in place

I wonder how giant the revenue boost will be in the wake of the WS win and with several winning seasons likely on the way. Merch, ticket sales, and TV contract should bring in waves of money.

And before they start the station with the Hawks in 2018

Did use to have earwigs in my atticus. (Haven't seen any lately.)

That's awesome

Random: Kyle Schwarber 7/17 with 3 BB. Apparently hitting MLB pitching isn't as hard as some people make it out to be. Clinching games: SF: 4 runs in the 9th. LA: Pummel the best pitcher on the planet. CLE: Rough up the other best pitcher on the planet, then do the same to the mostunhittablest reliever. Show mercy on Allen, then whack Shaw around to win it. Will Cubs parade on Friday be the largest sports celebration crowd in US history?

Estimating 5 million right now on local news

5 million is more than twice the total at any of the Blackhawks parades! 2 years ago, I never thought that I would live to see the Cubs win the World Series! Now it's happened!

jeez, Dex...you couldn't wait until after the parade tomorrow to announce your free agency?

Obviously, the 2016 Cubs were a horrible experience for him. :) In all seriousness, my take on it is this: He took a lesser contract in 2016 (in number of years) than what he wanted in 2016, but apparently he's had a conversation with his agent and he's ready to get paid with a fat contract. I say good luck to him. Who knows, maybe he'll be back.

He had a strong season with the WS champs. Somebody's gonna drown him in money this year.

Dex 3/75 I love spending Cubs money! Need to trade Soler and Almora for youngish starter

Maybe I'm not good at virtue-signaling but I've developed some love for Aroldis Chapman and hope the Cubs are in the bidding for his services. (I've said previously that I feel the same way about Fowler.) The Cubs had a crappy bullpen apart from Chapman and Montgomery, in case no one noticed; and Montgomery doesn't profile as a closer. Rondon never really recovered from his tricep problem in early August, but should mend over the winter. Strop and Grimm don't pitch well under pressure and had no saves during the season. Strop had five blown saves, although that statistic includes blown holds. But he just blows. Edwards looks very promising, but Maddon had the good sense not to pitch him in high-leverage situations, until he just had to use him in the bottom of the tenth when there was no one else besides Strop, Grimm, Wood and a tired Montgomery. We saw how Edwards froze up when he got to two outs. We don't smell a World Series, let alone win it, without Chapman.

Yes, from a purely baseball perspective, the Chapman deal was awesome. Don't imagine they win Game 5 of the WS without him, and he slammed the door on SF. Maddon's lack of confidence in the pen during the post-season was both justified and self-fulfilling, since most guys didn't get work and knew they would be on a very short leash. Hard to pitch under those circumstances, particularly in the post-season. I would not be shocked to see them make a serious run at Chapman. Next year is a "premium" year in the 2016-2021 window, since Jake and Lackey will still be here and Lester will still be in his prime. If they could get Chapman on a 2-3 year deal, CJ could be worked into the 8th inning role. Not sure where Fowler would play. Assuming Baez at 2B, Schwarbs in LF and Zobrist in RF puts Heyward in CF. Plus, Almora & Soler (barring a deal). I will always love Dex for this year, but great franchises know when to move on.

I guess one thing the World Series further exposed is how quickly Chapman's stuff deteriorates when he used heavily. He's like a Ferrari -- off the chart performance but not highly durable and kind of fussy about how you can use it.

If you look at the numbers on Strop and Grimm, they actual both did fine in high leverage positions. Strop underperformed his averages in medium leverage situations, and Grimm underperformed his averages in low leverage situations. Carl Edwards was dynamite in high leverage situations, although the sample size is very small. [Basing all this on splits from Baseball Reference and OPS allowed within those situations.] The eye test is helpful at times, but the numbers don't back up the conclusions.

I don't recall one moment that the late-inning bullpen guys (Strop and Rondon) were ever really a problem before they got Chapman. It was everything before and Grimm was a lot better once he came back up. Then Rondon and Strop got hurt and were never quite the same. I see no good reason to start throwing bad money at closers on the FA market...although I think Jansen and Chapman are both really, really good. But Better off doing what they've done, accumulate as many as they can and do what they need to in June and July...someone is always available. I have no idea what their financial situation is going to be, the real money doesn't happen until the the TV deal happens and there's not a ton coming off the books and what is is probably going to have to go to raises, arbitration and the few holes they need to fill. That being said, I'm totally cool with them spending their own money, preferably on Jansen though.

The injuries and subsequent ineffectiveness of Rondon and Strop is what made Chapman so critical. Rondon was very, very good until the injury -- he never seemed to get his slider back. Strop pitched a total of 6 innings after July 31. Rondon gave up 12ER in 10IP after July 31. Not how you want your back-end bullpen guys to be performing going into the playoffs.

I know World Series is high leverage; I don't know about individual games during the season. Another thing I know is how nervous I was. Rizzo could barely talk, trying to explain to Ross how nervous he was. That's high leverage.

I think Madden created a lot of the problems with the bullpen. Rondon was used to clean innings in closing situations and post-Chapman Madden would only put him in after people had already gotten on base and pull him as soon as he let someone on while he would leave other relievers in no matter what. Then he just stopped going to Rondon entirely. Madden never allowed him to get comfortable with his new role, was pretty clear he had no confidence in him and basically set him up to fail.

Still trying to digest it all: - Cubs come back from down 3-1, win the last 2 in Cleveland. - Schwarber returns for the WS, posts a .500 OBP, starts the winning rally in the 10th. - Ross goes deep to CF off Andrew Miller in Game 7. - 65 and sunny in Chicago for the victory parade on November 4. If they made it a movie, no one would have believed the plot.

BB, that's actually why sports movies tend to be bad. When the good guys win, it's not believable. I'm no Einstein, but I don't believe there's an alternate universe where this didn't happen. For the rest of our lives, those games will be in the Win column. We can fly the W flag confidently.

here's some great (imo) baseball films that buck the usual "disney-style" hero story. 'Sugar' is especially good, though you'll have some subtitle reading to do unless you speak Spanish really well. none of them end on a tragic/bad note, but it's not the usual trope. Sugar (2008) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0990413/ Ballplayer: Pelotero (2011) [documentary] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1885335/ Soul of the Game (1996) [not that "great" but still a good one] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115631/ Cobb (1994) [not entirely true story of Cobb, but still an interesting film] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109450/

Sugar and Pelotero are really good and don't sentimentalize the baseball industry. I think I watched sugar on your recommendation several years back, crunch!

VAPhil: Amen, brother.

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  • Charlie 2 hours 48 min ago (view)

    Yeah, it seems like I lean more toward overvaluing Bryant than most commenters here. Also, I completely stopped following prospect lists once the Cubs were good again, so I'm out of the loop on Pache especially. I had imagined that the Cubs would be looking more for immediate major league value rather than a projectable prospect, but I guess if you really like Pache you don't mind waiting a couple years.

     

  • K Dub 9 hours 32 min ago (view)

    PHIL: Excellent breakdown, Phil. Thanks. 

    I'm sure you heard. QO value was set at $17.8 million the day after you made your post.

     

  • K Dub 9 hours 40 min ago (view)

    Pache, Wright, Muller and Riley feels light to you, Charlie? I respect your opinion, but I would jump at it. I highly doubt the Braves would do it, though. Were talking 2 years of Bryant at what could be 18 million and 28-30 million in his last year of arbitration. 

    The Cubs would be hurting their chances next year and building for 2021 in a deal like that, but that's rebuilding/retooling in one fell swoop. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 13 hours ago (view)

    CHARLIE: Austin Riley is actually a third-baseman but he had to play LF for the Braves in 2019 because he was blocked by Josh Donaldson, and Cristian Pache is considered to be the best defensive centerfielder in the minors and his bat has improved enough over the past year or two to where he is now rated in or just outside the top ten overall prospects in MLB.

    So a package that includes Riley and Pache and one of the Braves young MLB or MLB-ready SP would probably be more than enough to get the Cubs to bite.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 2 days 16 hours ago (view)

    Max Fried or Bryse Wilson

     

  • crunch 2 days 17 hours ago (view)

    https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/27828247/...

    t.skaggs story keeps getting deeper.

    allegations the team knew about skagg's drug abuse (also his family).  teams are required to report this to MLB.

     

  • Charlie 2 days 19 hours ago (view)

    Except for the headline, the linked post reads more like a trade hypothetical than a trade rumor. I like the idea of looking at this package as a discussion point for expected return for Bryant. I would say it feels a little light to me. It's deep, with two decent outfield prospects with upside and two OK pitching prospects. But Riley doesn't help the team solve the CF problem right now, so he's either redundant to Bote or sort of a Schwarber replacement. Muller's inflated BB% at AA this year worries me a bit too.

     

  • Cubster 3 days 2 hours ago (view)

    I might have missed something and it's been talked about regarding a KB trade rumor from about 10-9-19. 

    https://apple.news/AJUMyEWodQ2GX1cj1gE4ENQ 

    Braves receive: 3B Kris Bryant 

     

  • crunch 4 days 16 hours ago (view)

    they get 3 guys and the cubs get 1 guy.  sounds like a slam dunk for the angels.  pencil trout in the cubs lineup.  he's got upside.

     

  • Jackstraw 4 days 18 hours ago (view)

    I'd hate to part with both Kemp and Chatwood, but if it will bring that Trout guy back, we could even throw in Almora.

     

  • crunch 4 days 21 hours ago (view)

    the ricketts got a brazillian dollar tax break...they need to trickle that down and flex on the entire league.

    we gonna get grandal, rendon, castellanos, g.cole, strasburg, ryu, a.chapman...maybe sign bumgarner and odorizzi to work the pen.

     

  • Arizona Phil 4 days 21 hours ago (view)

    CHARLIE: If the Cubs trade Quintana and his new club pays 100% of his 2020 salary his new club assumes 100% of his salary AAV liability, but if the Cubs agree to pay a portion of Quintana's 2020 salary as part of the trade, whatever portion of Quintana's 2020 salary that is paid by the Cubs would count against the Cubs 2020 AAV. 

     

  • Charlie 4 days 22 hours ago (view)

    PHIL: Thanks for that Boston context--I hadn't realized the trend there. If the Cubs did decide to pick up Quintana's option and then trade him (assuming the Cubs would not agree to pay part of the contract as part of the trade), do they have to do that by a certain date in order for Quintana's contract not to count against them for the CBT? I haven't been able to find any dates attached to the CBT in a quick internet search.

     

  • Arizona Phil 4 days 23 hours ago (view)

    My presumption in the Cubs declining Jose Quintana's 2020 club option as well as declining the club options on the veteran relievers who have one and non-tendering Addison Russell (and this also applies to Joe Maddon not returning as manager in 2020) is that after the monumental late-September collapse of 2019 on the heels of the 2018 Game #163 and Wild Card game defeats Ricketts will no longer accept the Cubs payroll going over the CBT threshold ($208M AAV in 2020) or extending a manager making $5M a year.   

     

  • crunch 5 days 4 hours ago (view)

    i actually like ATL the team...the fans and the 3+ hours of tommy hawk chawpin' non-stop is beyond annoying before even getting into how messed up it is they're still doing that in 2019.  it's all they do, just that 1 single thing...for hours...

    fans were so upset about not getting foam hatchets pre-game yesterday (that was the club's way to "dial it back") they were busy letting the "PC police" know they're here to chant and chop as loud as they could before the first pitch was even thrown.

    it took about 10 runs to shut them up.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 5 days 18 hours ago (view)

    Damn. Atlanta was the only team in the NL I was hoping would advance. I don’t know what I was hoping in LA vs WAS series. Cataclysmic event? (Side note, I live in the DC area, what a dreadful group of fans. They deserve nothing good ever.)