Game Preview: White Sux (26-33) vs. Cubs (27-33)

The Cubs and White Sox square off for the first time to try and win the BP Crosstown Cup. Each member of the winning team gets an oily bird delivered to their doorstep.

The lineup for the Cubs from Muskat over twitter:  rf fuke, 2b riot, 1b lee, cf byrd,
lf sori, 3b tracy, c hill, ss castro, p wells

And the White Sox lineup: Pierre lf, Ramirez ss, Rios cf, Konerko 1b, Jones
rf, AJ c, Beckham 2b, Nix 3b, (Peavy)

According to a caller on WSCR, Randy Wells was out partying with Ryan Dempster and the Blackhawks into the wee hours of the morning. Might as well just warm up Gorzelanny along with Wells to start the game.

Last, but not least, Mordecai Hill has these flattering words to say about your 2010 Cubs.

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

eh, Go Cubs?


Maybe Wells has a new pre-game routine. Look at all the money Farnsworth has made in his career, sets the right example for the young pitchers. Wells just needs a tighter pair of pants now.

I'm also glad BP is sponsoring the Crosstown Cup, since "disaster" and "negligence" are terms that would fit well with the Cubs these days.


I copied your line for our twitter feed.

Lou and Steve Stone get into it

with quotes

"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radi. What has he done?/blockquote>

"Why isn't he a farm director and bring some kids around? Why isn't he a general manager, and put the uniform on and been a pitching coach? Why hasn't he been a field manager. There's 30 teams out there that could use a guy's expertise like that. I'm tired of some of these guys, I really am. Now that's it. Let's go to baseball."

"I've seen more baseball players than Lou has. I just haven't managed them."

thank you steve stone.

yeah, well steve...your mom wears combat boots.

I guess he does the WGN games for free. ...neat

there's an entire cottage industry springing up over the past few years of how fans can more easily get angry at athletes.

...complete with self-righteous ranting, i mean commentary.


Well the world cup will last a few weeks, and then there's hopefully a LeBron signing to get excited about, we should be to NFL Preseason by then, right?

"The lineup for the Cubs from Muskat over twitter: rf fuke,......

Lou, it's June. Fukedome swoons in June. Do you really want this leading off?

KF career: .225 .330 .332
KF ..2010: .227 .261 .318

How about sitting Kosuke down til July when his hitting coach comes back and straightens out his swing?

If Lou sat down every guy who was cold for a week we'd be playing three players.

is colvin hurt?

I'm pretty sure I heard Lou saying something about Tyler Colvin being a "pretty boy" and having "a vagina" during the pregame. I'm not sure. He may have said that he smells bad and is "a douche" too. I think he high-fived Soriano afterward.

Is this totally like Dusty's last year managing?

two of the cubs' latest gaffes [botched rundown; runner scoring from 1st on a bunt]are garden variety little league...

Why has the game been delayed? Stanley Cup?

early morning rain or something, should be starting in 10-20 minutes

there was no rain. i was there, and we sat there looking at a dry field waiting for the game to start.

damn liberal media.

So, when Lou says something like--Unfortunately I have 5 major league outfielders on the roster, so I can't get Colvin in as much as he deserves because others need to play too--is that a message to the GM to trade from the teams strength in order to address a need either at the major league level or in the minors, or is that Lou just throwing up his hands and saying don't blame me?

I mean, should we expect Nady to be traded soon so that Lou only has 4 major league outfielders? Or expect to see Colvin traded soon? Or is Lou saying that we all just have to live with it until the situation somehow resolves itself?

I'm just curious what these angry rants at the press signify.

To answer your question, this is what Lou is thinking:


go ask the players... =p

Look, we have five good outfielders, here - what am I going to do? Soriano has to play, even if he's batting .225 over half the season, you got to play him. Then there's Fukudome - who when I don't put on the lineup card, which he can't read because the first names are the last names anyway, he just jogs out to right field when the game starts. Byrd is leading the league in hitting, and does needless dives better than Andy Van Slyke ever did, and Nady is a proven vet who, I think, charged the beach at Normandy. How can I take him out of the lineup now that he can overthrow third with the best of them? Colvin is the only guy who does what I tell him to do, so he sits out most nights. What else can I do?

i think it means he has 5 good outfielders and 3 OF spots, someone has to sit.

of course it should be fuku right now.

A Soriano Byrd Colvin outfield with Nady at 1st would probably be our best offensive combination right now. Lee still isn't hitting, in case anyone's forgotten.

I've counted out winning at this point, though. I just want to see Colvin play because he's the guy I see providing the best value in the future, especially if the Cubs want to be more strategic with their payroll.

Fukudome would have to be the guy to sit. (And I hope that the Cubs are discussing Fukudome, Byrd, and Lee with other teams.)

watching the cubs @wrigley with hawk/stone calling the game.

great...3 hours of steve stone telling us how everything is baseball is wrong unless it's done his way.

kind of like listening to crunch

/too easy and j/k

evidently someone doesn't understand sarcasm.



strangely, that just isn't getting old for me.

and it shouldn't.

Randy Wells's new mustache is a sure sign that he's headed down a bad road.

so it his top of 1st.

Iowa is calling Randy...

I wonder if Gorzelanny is the one that leaked Wells was out all night?

At least he got two outs this time, unlike the STL start.

Who is Gorzelanny?

my bad...sloth

That's better.

Or Cashner.

Numbers on the draft for all teams here:

-edit- don't feel like getting into it

long story short...adjusted wOBA on college metal bat baseball = bwhaha. it's not the main gist of the article, though.

I haven't even read it - just remember the discussion about JC players and thought some people may find it interesting.

oh, it's a good article...there's just a blurb at the end about adjusted wOBA on a metal bat college baseball if it matters.

it's like trying to justify how pretending how someone hits inside pitching in metal bat baseball is even justifiable.

Randy Wells had another adventurous first inning, after the Cubs denied a WSCR-AM rumor that their starter had been out until 3 a.m celebrating with the Hawks at The Underground night club.

"He was in bed by 9:30," said a Cubs spokesman.


""He was in bed by 9:30," said a Cubs spokesman."

9:30 am?

...but then he had to get up and go home.


"Out of all the guys in that OF, Fukudome is one guy you don't want to run on." - Steve Stone

i would argue, but what do i know?

"I've seen more baseball players than Lou has. I just haven't managed them." - Steve Stone

From Baseball America's Prospect Hot Sheet (for this past week)

8. Brett Jackson, OF Cubs

Team: high Class A Daytona (Florida State)
Age: 21
Why He's Here: .333/.429/.567 (10-for-30), 1 HR, 2 2B, 1 3B, 10 RBIs, 10 R, 5 BB, 6 SO, 4-for-5 SB
The Scoop: Jackson's raw power has yet to show through in the heavy air of the Florida State League. The Cubs' 2009 first-round pick out of California has just three home runs, including his grand slam on Wednesday against Brevard County, but he's otherwise been holding his own. Jackson, who's been Daytona's leadoff hitter all year, has had issues making contact (54 strikeouts in 214 at-bats), but that was a known problem for him, and he's been patient enough to already have drawn 39 walks, the most by any FSL hitter. Jackson's biggest obstacle so far might be his home park, where he's hitting just .238/.370/.343 in 105 at-bats compared to .321/.426/.486 in 109 road at-bats.

10. Chris Archer, LHP Cubs ....

I don't know about you guys, but I'm just getting this feeling that this just isn't going to be the Cubs year.

this just isn't going to be the Cubs year century



You seeing something I'm not?

On another note, I just read this headline on Rotoworld: "A-Rod has stiff groin, will see doctor Friday".

Doctor's prescription: "Stop checking yourself out in the mirror".

2nd bad century in a row.

Keep up, Mauer.

I understood...I'm just saying that thus far I'm not seeing anything to lead me to believe that this century will be better than the last one.



The last century also started out rough, as the Cubs finished 6th, 6th, and 5th from 1900-1902, topping out at 68 wins. But after finishing a solid 3rd (82-56) in 1903, the Cubs then reeled off back-to-back 90+ win seasons. Then from 1906-1910, they were in the World Series 4 of 5 years going 2-2, and the only year they missed the World Series they had 104 wins and a .680 winning percentage.

So yeah, if that's how a bad century looks 10 years in, there is nothing about our view from 2010 that suggests this one will be better, or even (cringe) as good.

The Cubs are sort of the Bizarro world's Tampa Bay Rays

something's gotta give...


piniella has nervous breakdown, sandberg brought in as 'interim' to plug the fan leak @ wrigley & then we'll see...


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  • BLOCK: Of course any advantage is an advantage. An MLB, NBA, or NHL team getting the extra game at home in a seven game series is an advantage, I just don't think it is enough of an advantage for winning a division and/or having the best record in a conference or league over the course of an 82-game season (NBA and NHL) or 162 game series (MLB).

  • TEX takes the opening game from TOR (@TOR) 5-3.

    TOR lost bautista + donaldson in-game due to injuries...TEX lost beltre...dunno if any will be lingering issues leading to missed games.

  • Ride the Kid Magic! Schwarber hadn't homered in a long time before last night.

  • Greg Maddux was 8-18 in his rookie season. Kyle has the 8 wins down pat.

    Think Baby Maddux.

    Prof. Harold Hill's THINK system at work.

    Kyle is on the far left.

  • I support this. Hendricks has not only looked better lately but seems to start struggling after a few innings which is better than the 1st in the playoffs.

  • Just tweeted via Jesse Rogers: Hendricks starting Game 2. Wow. Just wow.

  • That was good!

  • Well said. On one hand, I thought the HBP was a bad baseball play -- down 4 runs, put a runner on for a red-hot Fowler. On the other hand, they needed to do something -- I hadn't thought about the warning/pitching inside point. Is Hurdle that smart? He does not strike me that way. By the way -- not clear which fan base you are referring to in your "first" 3rd point.

  • My unsolicited opinions on topics covered in this thread:
    1. I hate the fact that after 162 games, a team could be out after 1 game. However, I think the system is pretty close to perfect right now. 2 of 3 isn't feasible unless they shorten the regular season, and it ices the division winners for way too long. This creates excitement, and rewards the division winners.

  • Personally, I think the game could have had a very different look had the Pirates held onto the ball and tagged Fowler out on the steal in the first. Cole was clearly frazzled, but if they took that runner off the base, it could have relaxed him a lot.

  • Football games are played once a week. There are 16 games a year. I'm not even remotely following at all how you can compare the two leagues and playoff systems. It is physically impossible to play a home and away series. The idea of not having any road games in baseball playoffs is certainly a head scratcher.

    How is not having the first and last game at home a benefit for the division winners and team with the best record? How is it not an incentive to win the division when a WC team has to blow their top pitcher?

    Call me lost.

  • Two 97+ win teams in a do-or-die, great bullpens, overpowering starters, plenty of pop--hard to believe that game wouldn't be tense. A 4-0 lead is not a blowout, especially in that situation and with the Cubs' young bullpen. Not only would a defensive play here or there make a difference, but you get the win there also on the home plate umps strike zone (generous strike calls for Arrieta, including a couple Ks), and on Schwarber sitting on the right pitch at the right time.

  • Unbeleivable Dodgers:
    I just noticed the Dodger's payroll today. It is just absurd. $300,000,000+!!
    Here is where just some of their money is for 2015:

    Some "Highlights"
    Carl Crawford $20MM
    Brandon McCarthy $17MM
    Bronson Arroyo $3.5MM
    Darwin B $2.2MM
    Dan Haren $10MM
    Matt Kemp $18MM
    Brian Wilson $10MM
    Ryan Webb $2.2MM
    Dee Gordon $2.5MM

  • So I think tomorrow will be the most important test of how far we can go. We can win it all with two pitchers since Arietta has shown he can carry over his success to the post season. If Lester can be dominant also then I think we can go far no matter how Hendricks or Hammel do.


    And in terms of pitching just went through to see how we could maximize Lester and Arietta and came up with this (Lester would be going on 4 days rest three times and Arietta twice):

  • i still can't believe that crawford contract (7/142). all that loot and years for a LF'r who's entire hitting game revolves around his legs and line-drive power. those triples that raised his value are deceptive as hell to his true power, but it helped him get paid.

    there's also pause about a guy who's ob% is almost totally driven by hits rather than walks. BOS got lucky unloading that crap deal.

  • I think the Cubs take Berry and Soler off playoff roster and add Hammel & Ramirez. Believe Maddon will find Denorfia & Jackson defense too hard to lose.