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Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 11:01am.

I can't say I'm feeling too confident about tonight's game, but for the few hours between now and game time, I'm just going to keep playing these clips over and over and hoping the Cubs have another comeback left in them this season.

The first one isn't a comeback, but Rich Harden fans 11 Nationals (Game Thread Link)

Cubs overcome an 8-0 deficit to Rockies (Game Thread Link)

Daryle Ward pinch-hit 3-run HR to give Cubs lead in the 9th (Game Thread Link & Recap)

Ramirez hits go-ahead grand slam versus Phillies (Game Thread Link & Recap)

Soto ties Brewers with 3-run HR (Game Thread link & Recap)

Go Cubs Go!

 

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#1 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by CA-Phil on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 12:43pm.

oh yes, I remember back when the Cubs used to be good...

#2 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Ryno on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 12:52pm.

!!!!!Spoiler alert!!!!!

Cubs are going to win today.

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#3 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Ryno on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 12:59pm.

I know we're not really thinking this far ahead yet, but what are the chances the Cubs resign Harden? I assume he'd otherwise hit the FA market after this year, right?

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#4 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Charlie on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:10pm.

Team option on Harden for '09, no?

I think after that, it will depend largely on Harden's health, whether Dempster is back and effective, and what roles Hill and Marshall have. Also depends on whether the Cubs sign anyone to a multi-year contract this offseason--I'm thinking Derek Lowe would be a good target, and I'd stay far away from both Sheets and Sabathia (for the money he's gonna get).

#7 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by superjimmer on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:57pm.

I'd love to have Harden and Dempster again.

Also to be fair I don't give a crap about the Cubs' corporate spending, I would take CC as a free agent in a heartbeat.

In fact just sign CC and Manny and call it a world series victory (and a $200 million dollar summer).

#9 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Charlie on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:14pm.

Are you counting on Soriano or Manny moving to right field? Or does Hendry somehow manage to trade Soriano or move him back to 2B?

Just imagine a Soriano, KFuk, Manny outfield. Now that is a defensive nightmare.

If it were a matter just of the corporation digging a littler deeper, then wonderful. Sign CC, Lowe, Sheets, and Furcal. But considering that there is likely to be a limit on how much they spend, regardless of who they sign, I think CC is too big a risk on a big contract, and the same for Sheets and Burnett.

#13 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by superjimmer on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:25pm.

It would be a little rough but I could deal with Soriano in RF. He has a good arm and if it meant having Manny's bat I would do that. But aside from Fuk/Pie/Edmonds/Johnson in center you are damn right there would be some UGLY defense at times. But I'll concede that the Cubs could never afford Manny and CC, SOOOOO:

As far as CC I would die to have that guy, even with the risk that the Brewers just ruined his arm. At any cost. He seems like a horse and is definitely a gamer. Who wouldn't want to add him to their rotation? I think he would be more valuable than any other Free Agent this year 2009 or next 2010 for the Cubs.

#18 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Charlie on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:24pm.

My concerns about Sabathia's health aren't solely due to the fact that he's thrown more pitches this year than anyone else. He's also a 6'7" power pitcher with most of his weight in his gut. That's asking for back problems, and if he loses some miles per hour will he still be worth the money? I could easily be wrong--he could stay healthy for years. But I'm concerned nonetheless.

I believe saying Soriano would be "rough" in right field is a bit of an understatement. I mean, he's rough in left field. But, yes, a lineup with Lee, Rammy, Soriano, Manny, and Soto would be ridiculous. Lefties would especially quake in their boots.

#5 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by carlosrubi on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:52pm.

I'd resign both Redster and Harden. They'd be effective bullpen arms even if the rotation experiments fail.

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#10 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Charlie on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:19pm.

I think it'd be hard to move Dempster back to the bullpen any time in 09 after the 08 he's had. Harden would only be moved to the bullpen because of arm issues, like Wood. I can't imagine the Cubs turning down Harden's option for 09 unless he's really hurt.

#6 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by superjimmer on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:54pm.

Tonight's a crapshoot. If the Cubs find themselves and get off the mat tonight I say they win the series.

If they can't crawl out of the hole and regain some inkling of what they know they can be it could be a boring 2-0 or 3-1 loss.

(I think that Harden and Lilly can win in LA. But weirdly enough the specter of October Night Games in Wrigley still give me the creeps -- though I think if the Cubs can get it back to Wrigley they will win with a nice performance by Z and the deflated Dodgers if it plays out that way. But regarding Wrigley Nights in October, it just doesn't work for me, does anyone else feel that? I wish the Cubs played more day games in the playoffs . . . something is just not right about it. And I'm not talking traditionalism or curses, just the vibe and intensity of the crowd and the cold. It's claustrophobic)

#8 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by CA-Phil on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:02pm.

Last Cubs post-season game I attended in person:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN198...

I'm going tonight...

#11 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by The E-Man on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:21pm.

I was at that Game, CA PHIL!!

Bought the ticket from an on-duty Cop!

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#14 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by CA-Phil on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:31pm.

My brother won a lottery of regular season bleacher bums. Sat in LF (which is where I'll be tonight -- albeit 2000 miles west) but a good omen nevertheless.

#12 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Jackstraw on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:25pm.

I'm partly optomistic 1000 percent.

It ain't the offseason yet.

Cubs don't need to come back in tonight's game yet, it's 0-0.

Harden's last 10 starts, 5-0, 1.99 ERA.

Go win a game.

Please go win a game, you chokin', ef-in' dogs.

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#15 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:40pm.
Hardnen has a $7M team option, but can demand a trade if he wants. Even if Cubs don't pick up his option, he's still under 6 years of service time so Cubs would retain his rights.

#16 If Harden's flinging

Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:42pm.
95 mph+ and throwing strikes, I like our chances. Too often he's been in the low 90's lately and missing the zone badly.

#17 Weather Update

Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:52pm.
light drizzle at 1:45 PM PST....

#19 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by The E-Man on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:27pm.

ROB G: Any way you can make mobile posts from the game?

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#21 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 4:08pm.

I'm sure there is, but not sure what I could tell you that you won't see on TBS.

But I don't really have Twitter or anything like that set-up now anyway....

#20 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Dmac on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:55pm.

I don't know why, but CC reminds me a little of Bartolo Colon at this stage in his career - overweight, tons of mileage on his arm, I think I'll pass.

#22 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by The Real Neal on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 4:17pm.

I think Big ERA Z is the better comp for Colon. But in the history of baseball the only long term pitching FA contract I can recall that worked out for the team was Maddux. Maybe I am missing one (Cone?), but pretty much if you give a six year deal to a pitcher, you're going to get burned on at least one, and likely three of those years.

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#23 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Chifan on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 5:12pm.

How about the 6/75 deal that the Redsox gave Pedro in '98. They got one of the best six consective season runs by a SP in the history of baseball, including two seasons of sub 2 ERA's in a DH league in the midst of steroid era.

#24 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Transmission on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 6:35pm.
Mark it down: Cubs 4, Dodgers 1

#25 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by crunch on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 6:44pm.

Cubs 72, Dodgers -1

#26 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Transmission on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 6:47pm.
real life just called, think I'm going to miss recapping tonight's game. :( I promise I'll recap tomorrow's, instead.

#27 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Chifan on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 6:55pm.

I think the game recaps need to be retired for 2008. Everytime its been done in the playoffs the result is a Cubs lose. Infact, I think the infield F'd so bad in the second was because they were all thinking, "Gee I wonder whats going on in Parachat, I cant wait for Tran's recap tonight".

#29 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by Charlie on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:37pm.

That's a heck of a promise.

#28 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by billybucks on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:18pm.

Show a little faith,
There's magic in the night.

#30 Re: Cubs 2008 Comebacks

Submitted by rokfish on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:42pm.

word on espn news is that fontenot at 2nd derosa in right